I think that’s also the benefit of writing for someone in particular, and knowing how they would deliver a line, rather than just writing it as yourself and hoping the actor delivers it the way that you want them to. And it probably makes that a little bit easier for the actor, too.
For Chioke, I think a lot of it was based on certain truths that came out of a certain place, and he wrote it in a way that felt very natural and real.
Right. So you were saying, it’s kind of a dramedy — it has some dark humor to it. But in general, it has a pretty serious tone. The stuff that you’ve done before is obviously much more wacky and…
Yeah, fun and light. Had you done serious work like this before? Or was it something you were excited to embrace?
I was just lucky enough to get the opportunity to try it. I don’t do it very much, and I honestly don’t know… I straight-up don’t know how good I am at it, but I just wanted to try it and was so grateful to get the chance to. I don’t consider myself as an actor as much as I do a writer. It’s a real luxury, but it’s also nerve-wracking because you hope to express the person’s intention. I’m biased in like a bad way, or something; it’s tough for me to have to watch myself try to act well. Chioke liked it, and that’s like, my thing. But for me it was a great opportunity. It was my first one, you know? I just think that there’s value to newness in acting and writing.
Yeah, absolutely, and not putting yourself into one box. Maybe it’s because I know you and have seen you perform before, but there was like a very natural style to it, and your style of acting is very believable, too.
Thank you so much. I really have been trying to just throw it away a little bit and not be so precious. In real life, you’re not thinking about every fuckin’ thing you say, you know? I like to carry that over, and just be like, what if I wasn’t thinking so hard about this fucking sentence, you know? And if it’s like hard to say or articulate, just move on and try something else. It was the right environment to try that.
The last thing is more an observation and not so much a question: I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone run as much on camera as you do — between this movie and Broad City, and even on the web series. I just now associate New York City with you running down the street, which I think is a very specific experience.
That’s so funny. I’d like to write for myself, or write with someone for myself, an action movie one day. Because I think for some reason it just works…
Well, you have a very good… running gait, I guess? Which is a very good skill to have, I think, if you’re going to be on camera and running.
Thank you… I do, um, run a lot.
Oh, good for you!
Oh, no. No, no, no, not in real life. Not at all in real life.
Well, you’ve found a good way to get exercise as well as, you know, create great art.
It’s funny how adrenaline makes it so you can, like, DO IT, or something. Like I can do anything!