The two-hour “Race Wars” episode — titled “#RapeWars” — is worth listening to in full. While it didn’t elicit a true apology from Metzer, it offers a window into the way we have (and in some cases, haven’t) evolved in our discussion of rape culture. Radio host Charlamagne Tha God, former Jezebel editor/ current Vocativ editor Erin Gloria Ryan, and comic Keren Margolis joined Small and Metzger for a wide-ranging debate on sexual assault and how both the court of public opinion and the justice system fails rape victims.
At one point veteran comic Barry Crimmins called in to offer his support to both Metzger and victims of sexual assault:
“First I just want to say this about Kurt Metzger. He saw the film that Bobcat [Goldthwait] made about me, which largely hinges on the fact that I was raped multiple times as a four-year-old boy. And his response was as compassionate and right-on as anybody’s, so I think that, you know I just want to make that clear, that he got it and is a good guy and I think the world of him. But I just want to say, I read what you wrote today, Kurt, and I understand that it’s satirical and I get it. I think it would have gone well without the ‘hole’ line. That was harsh.”
Metzger responded, “When I get called a thing that I’m not, and I get caught up in ‘I’m right,’ that’s me. Because this is important and I’m making my ego the thing, and it’s not that. So I apologize for that. I give a fuck about this, so that’s the wrong move on my part.”
Crimmins went on to suggest that Metzger’s critics are missing the point — that the accused rapist is still out there, “prowling around comedy clubs” while people pick apart Metzger’s admittedly wildly insensitive comments on social media:
“People who want to condemn somebody forever because they might have said the wrong thing — that’s ridiculous. What we need to do is move along further in this issue that we’re really in the foothills of. There’s a mountain in front of us and we’re in the foothills of it. We need the strength and energy to get up and find this higher ground where we have a better view and we can begin to become a more civilized society where in fact people realize that rape is way too prevalent, way too common, and it happens to far too many people. If it happens to one person it’s far too many people.
“If we can’t get there because we’re gonna stop and squabble with one another or put little traps along the way for one another to win some point — to be stupid-ass Americans who are into this either/or shit like our politics, where you just have to be dogmatic and win your point or win your moment — we’re not gonna move forward where it’s more civilized and safer for everybody.”
Listen to the full episode here: